No. 3A Autographic Kodak

Old cameras often lurk forgotten in drawers and closets, discovered on the sad occasion of sorting through a loved one’s possessions after he or she has passed. Such was the case with this No. 3A Autographic Kodak, which had belonged to a friend of a Down the Road reader. It is on permanent loan at the Jim Grey Home for Wayward Cameras.

No. 3A Autographic Kodak

The No. 3A Autographic Kodak is a giant among folding cameras at 4¾ inches wide by 9½ inches tall – 1¾ inches wider and 3¾ inches taller than my more typically sized folding Kodak Six-20. That’s because the No. 3A takes size 122 film, which produces big postcard-sized 3¼-by-5½-inch prints. Postcard collectors know well the “real photo postcards” produced when photographs were printed onto paper marked with a place for a stamp, address, and message. Kodak introduced size 122 film in 1903 just for this purpose. Real photo postcards were popular for several decades, finally falling out of favor by the 1960s. Kodak soldiered on with the format but finally gave up, producing its last roll of 122 in 1971.

The real photo postcard was at its peak in 1914, however, when Kodak introduced the No. 3A for a 20-year manufacturing run. As an autographic Kodak, it included a flip-up door on the back and a little stylus. When you loaded special autographic film into the camera, lifting the door let you write a few words on the film’s backing paper. Then you’d leave the door open for a few seconds in the light, which caused the words you wrote to transfer photographically to the negative. Kodak suggested you use this to record the photograph’s subject, the date, and even the camera’s settings as a reminder when you received the prints. Typical of autographic Kodaks, my No. 3A’s stylus was lost long ago.

No. 3A Autographic Kodak
No. 3A Autographic Kodak

Kodak offered its No. 3A with a few different combinations of lens and shutter. This one comes with the premium f/7.7 Anastigmat lens, which stops down to an itty-bitty f/45. Its Kodak Automatic shutter can expose the film at 1/100, 1/25, 1/5, 1/2, and 1 second, as well as time and bulb.

No. 3A Autographic Kodak

Focusing the lens involves moving the entire lens assembly along its rails. You first lift, slide, and set the black “catch” on the focus scale to the desired distance. Then you squeeze the two chromed levers toward each other and slide the lens assembly up to the “catch,” where it stops.

No. 3A Autographic Kodak

To frame a photograph, lift up the chromed cover on the viewfinder and peer down through it. The No. 3A’s lens assembly can move horizontally and vertically to fine-tune the framing. Making it move is a little complicated, so I’ll skip telling you how.

No. 3A Autographic Kodak

Given the No. 3A’s defunct film format, I’m unable to try out this camera. It’s just as well, as the bellows is full of holes! So I bought another Kodak Metal Tripod No. 1, screwed this camera onto it, and placed it on display in a corner of my home office. I’ll get to enjoy it every day this way!

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62 responses to “No. 3A Autographic Kodak”

  1. gaycarboys Avatar

    My dad was a manager in Kodak for about 500 years. I never paid for a camera of film growing up let alone processing. Happy days. There were many old cameras kicking around the headquarters. They have a certain smell as do the developing fluids. I only wish now that I had paid ore attention when I was a kid. And I certainly will take a walk down memory lane when I get the chance to have a gander at your other cameras. Cheers and thanks for the memories.

    1. Jim Avatar

      Wow, how cool is that, that your dad worked for Kodak! Hard to believe that they are likely to file bankruptcy now. I hope you enjoy looking at my other camera posts.

      1. gaycarboys Avatar

        It’s very sad they might not survive. It’s for one reason only and that is they completely failed to embrace digital technology until it was too late. Also there was the instamatic/polaroid debacle. Things change and maybe that’s just the way things have to be. I will shed a little tear for Kodak. I always wanted to go to Rochester with dad but never got the chance.

        1. Jim Avatar

          It’s very hard for a big company who is still making huge money on a product to see that the market is changing and that their cash cow won’t last. There are so many psychological forces at work that tend to keep companies from seeing the truth.

          I’ve been to Rochester on business. It’s very cold there all winter!

    2. Karl Natschke Avatar

      I have 2 of these exact cameras with cases with out stands. Does anyone know what they are worth?

  2. ryoko861 Avatar

    OMG, what a cool camera! No wonder no one smiled in pictures back then. It took forever to set the damn thing up! It would be really cool to find one of those “postcard” pictures from it.

    Nice of your friend to loan it to you so you can enjoy it. I was thinking the same thing, display it…it’s too pretty to be in closet! Great conversation piece! Thanks for sharing that! It was fascinating!

    1. Jim Avatar

      The real reason nobody smiled is because, without flash, the lens had to stay open for a long time to register enough light. So the subjects had to sit/stand stock still. It was hard to hold a smile for that long!

  3. Mike Avatar

    Very cool camera, Jim, and a great post. As a big fan of “real photo postcards,” I especially enjoyed learning how the words were transferred photographically to the negative.

    1. Jim Avatar

      The words appeared in the negative between frames. I know that words are frequently scratched somehow on to the face of real-photo postcards, but I don’t know for sure how it’s done!

      1. Denny Gibson Avatar

        Aha. I completely misunderstood how the stylus thing worked (see my reply to Mike’s comment below).

  4. Denny Gibson Avatar

    Classic camera. At f/45 you could probably have the full length of Washington Street in focus if you could just get everybody to stand still for an hour.

    1. Jim Avatar

      Hahahaha! Or explode an atomic bomb nearby for use as a flash.

      1. Denny Gibson Avatar

        In addition to verification for the “between the frames” use of the stylus (Not that I doubted you for a second.) an online manual for the camera offers this tip for illumination that is at least marginally safer than your a-bomb technique.:
        “NOTE – If you are not using the Kodak Flash Sheet Holder, place the match in a split stick at least two feet long.”

        1. Jim Avatar

          I have the manual that came with my No. 3A — I’ll have to see if it has that line in it!

  5. Mike Avatar

    It is pretty rare to see one of those in which the leather and the metalwork is so beautifully preserved.

    Kodak made a big deal of the Autographic feature for adding notes to the negatives, featuring it in all its advertising, and putting it on hundreds of thousands of nearly every model of its cameras. The feature and the hype may have sold some cameras, but I haven’t seen any evidence that more than a tiny portion of users ever actually made use of the Autographic capability. I have never seen a print with an Autographic note.

    1. Denny Gibson Avatar

      I’ve always assumed that at least some of the notes seen on real photo cards and other prints were applied in the camera with the stylus. On the other hand, I know that some notes were applied to negatives in the lab. Is there a way to distinguish “in camera” notes from “in lab” notes?

      1. Jim Avatar

        I don’t know. I do know that you can scratch words into a print (an old-style print, made on photographic paper) by wetting the print and scratching into it with a sharp instrument. But I’m not knowledgeable enough about RPPCs to know how it was done.

    2. Jim Avatar

      I get the impression that this camera was left closed in a drawer for a long time. When I received it, most of the raised spots on the leather had turned brown. A little shoe polish solved that.

      I’ve read that the autographic notes were not intended to show up on the print. Anything written into that box appeared only in the space between images on the negative.

  6. Chris Pickenpaugh Avatar

    I have this camera, too. Pretty sure it’s fully inoperable. Right now, my old collectible cameras are in storage.

    1. Jim Avatar

      Cool! Even inoperable, it would look good on display.

  7. Scott Palmer Avatar

    Absolutely gorgeous! I don’t even collect cameras and I’m smitten.

    1. Jim Avatar

      Given your love for old typewriters, I’m not surprised!

  8. Mike Avatar

    The best explanation I’ve seen of the Autographic system is by David Silver.
    http://en.allexperts.com/q/Photography-694/Autographic-Kodak.htm

    1. Jim Avatar

      That’s a very helpful writeup. Thank you for sharing it!

  9. Steve Hammer Avatar

    Another great post, Jim! I never cease to be amazed at the cameras you find and the wonderful prints you get from them. Too bad you can’t give this one a shot!

    1. Jim Avatar

      I’m so glad you enjoy my camera posts. I’ll give away my secret — I buy my cameras on eBay. But occasionally someone gives me one, like this.

  10. jimsgarage Avatar

    What an absolute beauty!

    1. Jim Avatar

      Yes it is! Thanks.

  11. Janice Caloia Avatar
    Janice Caloia

    Jim, Thanks so much for a very interesting article and description of this old camera. I’m so glad you are appreciating it and that I was able to find a very good home for it. Enjoy it!

    1. Jim Avatar

      Jan, it’s a beautiful camera and I’m grateful you sent it to me!

  12. Mauricio Sapata Avatar

    Hi Jim… really nice Kodak Autograph.

    I’m sure you can make some adaptations to use this wonderful camera, I have the Pocket Autograph and I managed using mine…

    The holes can be easily fixed with a solution of glue, black shoe polishing and a drop of detergent…

    1. Jim Avatar

      Mauricio, I have to admit, I’m unlikely to fix this camera up and adapt it for use. I have too many other cameras here that I haven’t shot yet, but that take readily available film!

  13. Kristi Avatar
    Kristi

    Notice the hose “barb” on the pneumatic cylinder opposite the shutter lever? It was for remote shutter release with a bulb on a rubber tube. The cylinder nearer the shutter lever [without a barb] was a pneumatic timer piston for longish [but shorter than B or T] exposures. Heck of a camera to learn on. Hard to forget its quirks. At six frames per roll, it taught me to make every shot count.

    1. Jim Avatar

      Ah, so you have experience with one of these? That’s really cool.

  14. Richard Avatar

    Jim,

    I missed on purchasing this camera during the weekend at a garage sale. I was rushing to my best garage sale where I purchased 46 pounds of cameras and lenses for $100: http://whatisafilmcamera.com/best-camera-deal-ever/

    Now I know I should have made an offer on the Kodak 3A. It’s the same camera used by the great author/photographer Jack London around 1903.

    I’m going back to that house in a few days to make an offer.

    1. Jim Grey Avatar

      I’m not sure I would buy one of these if I saw it, because its defunct film size makes it a display piece only. My little house is running out of places for display pieces! But I have a hard time saying no when someone offers me a camera for free.

      1. Richard Avatar

        Jim,

        I rarely purchase cameras I cannot use. But I’m pretty fond of Jack London as a writer and photographer (his photography is wide-ranging).

        If I can get the nice Kodak 3A for $10, I’ll do it.

  15. Paul Avatar
    Paul

    I bought am Autographic 1A several years ago for the princely sum of $1.00. It is missing one of the brackets that holds the door in the open position and I always keep an eye open for another for parts when I’m in an antique store. One of the things that caught my attention was that it has a partly exposed roll of film in it. I’ve often thought about sending it to the places that specialize in obsolete film developing, or maybe to westfordcomp.com

    1. Jim Grey Avatar

      Having found films processed can be very exciting. I had a roll of film I found in my Kodak Brownie Hawkeye processed and found a family’s late-1960s Niagara Falls vacation. (http://blog.jimgrey.net/2011/06/27/kodak-brownie-hawkeye-flash-model/). I used Film Rescue International to process that roll. I recommend them, although their services are pricey. http://www.filmrescue.com/

  16. James Jacocks Avatar

    These obsolete cameras can still be used with reversal paper. You can buy that at Freestyle. Cut to size and carry in a box inside a changing bag. Not inconvenient when you consider the things you don’t need to do–like processing the film and printing it. For a semi digital (alright, Polaroid) experience use a changing tent in your car or van. Don’t leave the scene without one (the finished print). You process the print in small trays fitted with a semi lid to control slop. Time adjust for temperture. Not critical. Scan for duplicates can be made with cheap non film scanners. The original is one of a kind. You will attract attention!

    1. Jim Grey Avatar

      Dude, you are guerilla! That sounds like real fun. Makes me want to fix the pinholes in the bellows of this old girl.

    2. greggobst Avatar
      greggobst

      I shoot a fair amount of X-Ray film in my 4×5 view camera and 4×5 pinhole, Fuji HR-T 30 double-sided X-Ray film and Kodak Ektascan BR/A single-sided X-Ray film specifically and that got me to thinking. By cutting down some slices of the Ektascan to postcard size, covering up the re frame window with black tape on the back to make it light tight(ish) and taping a slice of the film to the inside of the back cover while in a black changing bag I should be able to shoot this thing. In theory, it should work. I may have some light leaks I will need to detect and plug up but my 3A’s bellows are fully light tight and the shutter and apertures all are accurate. I’ll try it this weekend, develop the shots and head into the darkroom to do some test prints on the 4×5 enlarger. I’ve got nothing to lose. I love the idea of shooting with a 100 year old camera.

      1. Jim Grey Avatar

        Now that would be some serious guerilla photography! I like to shoot with 100-year-old cameras too, but not if it means adapting film.

  17. cozyteacup Avatar

    oh my I love this vintage camera.. makes me think of turn of the century ladies in those long, shapeless dresses and hats, posing for the camera :). I will be back!

    1. Jim Grey Avatar

      This is a truly beautiful camera. I have it on a vintage tripod in the corner of my office so I can always look at it.

  18. Mark W Avatar
    Mark W

    I have a 116 autographic series II camera. I also own a roll of Autographic film, unexposed for the same camera. I plan to expose the film to test the way the Autographic principle works. I have my doubts concerning success of 80 year old film, but you never know!

    I’ll keep you posted.

    1. Jim Grey Avatar

      Wow! Good luck. I hope you’ll share the results online!

  19. prettytalkative angel51 Avatar

    Is it possible to find film for this camera? When my papaw died, it was left in our possession. I remember him taking pictures of us every Sunday with this camera.

    1. Jim Grey Avatar

      The film for this camera hasn’t been made in decades, unfortunately. I’ve heard of people using 120 film in cameras like this but it is a tricky thing at best.

  20. Peter Paar Avatar

    Jim you are “an occasion of sin”. I saw this camera on your site some time ago and have been looking on Ebay for one that was a) in usable shape and b) at a reasonable price. I finally found one for $60 that even had the stylus. The only thing missing is the strap for the case.

    According to the manual, Kodak made a back that would take plates and/or sheet film holders. If I ever find one, I would be tempted to try this baby out.

    I might note that t\my camera is 20 years older than I am and is in much better shape.

    Peter Paar

    1. Jim Grey Avatar

      Sorry, brother, that I caused you to stumble! But if you ever find the plate/sheet back and shoot your No. 3A, I’d love to see the work!

  21. Salvador Avatar
    Salvador

    I have used 120 film with adaptors from holgamods. Cheap and easy. Better to cover the back red window to eliminate light leaks. You must roll the film blind. Try it first with a blank/sacrified 120. Then you know how many turns for each picture. Quite easy

    1. Jim Grey Avatar

      Awesome. I should try it someday. This is a beast of a camera but I’d love to see what its lens can do.

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  23. Muhammad Suhaily Avatar

    Hi Jim, could you tell me a bit about how this camera take photo with post card. As I can see, there is photo at the back and we can write something in front, am I right?

    Don’t know nothing about it.

    Thanks.

    1. Jim Grey Avatar

      Muhammad, there used to be a photographic paper that had a postcard back — the image was printed on one side, and on the other it wasn’t blank, but rather there were markings where you wrote the address and the message, and affixed the stamp.

  24. Muhammad Suhaily Avatar

    Thanks Jim, one more thing, Is it real photo on one side?

    1. Jim Grey Avatar

      Yes, it was photographic paper, one side was photosensitive and you could print photos onto it.

      1. Muhammad Suhaily Avatar

        Thanks Jim, Appreciated! Nice blog and love your review. By the way, nice meeting you. Far indeed from Malaysia.

        1. Jim Grey Avatar

          My pleasure!

    2. Jose Avatar
      Jose

      Hi Jim, I have a Kodak 3A Series III that Im looking to get new bellows made, do you happen to know of any places in the US that can make them? Thank you!

      1. Jim Grey Avatar

        Off the shelf bellows are no longer available. Vanishingly few people make custom bellows. But one fellow who gets good reviews is here:

        http://www.sandehalynch.com/camerawork/bellows.php

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